How To Install Air Admittance Valve For Toilet

How To Install Air Admittance Valve For Toilet Valve
How To Install Air Admittance Valve For Toilet Toilet
Air Admittance Valve For Toilet

Hot water from the shower is steaming up the vent pipe and freezing on the valve flapper. Warm moist air exits the open vent, condenses and weeps down the pipe onto the drywall ceiling. Try wrapping the vent pipe with water pipe heat cable for a quick fix. You can buy plumbing heat cable at the home improvement store. If you need to install an air admittance valve, or AAV, to add pipe ventilation, it helps to have plumbing knowledge and the ability to shut off the main water valve to the area if necessary in an emergency. Also, make sure to check with the local authorities before you start, to verify that they. Posted 7 years ago. You can replace a vent pipe with a valved air intake instead. It still has to be installed above the toilet waste level but that can fit under the bath or in exiting bulkheads if available. The valve intake or vent is so as to prevent your waste creating a vacuum lock in the pipe as it falls.

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Air admittance valves or Studor Vents:

What is an air admittance valve (AAV) or Studor Vent® and how are they used? Air admittance valves or Studor Vents (a trade name for a specific air admittance valve brand) are often found where it is difficult or even impossible to install conventional plumbing vent piping; in other installations air admittance valves may supplement the building's existing vent piping system to avoid trip siphonage and dangerous methane gas leaks during periods of heavy water usage.

This article series defines plumbing vent system terms, distances, and functions, and other specifications and code requirements. We explain how plumbing vents work on buildings, why plumbing vent piping is needed, and what happens to the building drains when the vent piping is not working.

We also provide a MASTER INDEX to this topic, or you can try the page top or bottom SEARCH BOX as a quick way to find information you need.

Air Admittance Valves & Studor Vents: Plumbing Vents to Prevent Trap Siphonage & Methane Gas Hazards in Buildings

Definition of Air Admittance Valve (AAV): An AAV is a one-way valve that allows air to enter the drain to satisfy the vacuum caused by water passing down the drainage system, but that prevents sewer gases from backing up through the vent into the building.

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Above, a Studor® Redi-Vent Air Admittance Valve from IPC Corporation.

How To Install Air Admittance Valve For Toilet

Here we define Air Admittance Valves (AAVs) and explain where and how they are used.

Question: what are those one-way vents called - used under sinks in cabinets?

(Nov 8, 2012) Jon said:

What are the one way vents called under sinks in cabinets?

Reply: air admittance valves or AAVs, or 'Studor Vent'

Vacuum breaker vents or 'cheater vents' or 'studor vetns' or more formally and properly, 'air admittance valves' (AAVs) for which an example is the V-200 Jon. That's what you are asking about.

While the term 'studor vent' is widely applied to describe an air admittance valve, Studor Mini-Vents as well as Redi-Vents are products of Studor Inc. & the IPS Corporation and are a brand name.

Other examples of air admittance valves (AAV s) or inline vents include models produced Keeney Mfg. Vanity Installation Kit, and the Oatey 20 DFU Sure-Vent (Oatey 39016 or 39017 and other models). Most of the AAV manufacturers offer a range of AAV models.

The Oatey SUre-Vent 39016 includes ANSI ASSE certifications stamped right on the valve top.

Standard plumbing vents vs. air admittance valves:

Above: a conventional plumbing vent stack termination above the roof line.

If a plumbing drain is not vented to the atmosphere drain performance is likely be slow and noisy. Worse, the vacuum created by water passing through the drain waste piping system can cause water to be siphoned out of plumbing fixtrure traps. The loss of that trap water will in turn permit potentially explosive sewer gases to enter the building.

Standard Plumbing Vents

Typical 'standard' plumbing systems include a plumbing vent pipe that passes up through the building roof and terminates above it.

Standard plumbing vent lets air in at the rooftop:
When a sink, toilet, shower or tub or similar plumbing fixture empties into its drain system in a standard plumbing arrangement, the vacuum that would be caused by water running down the drain pipe is relieved by air that enters the piping system through the plumbing vent stack.
If we did not relieve that vaccum pressure in the drain line the drain would pass wastewater poorly, slowly, and often with a bubbling or glub glub noise.
At PLUMBING VENT NOISE we also describe Air admittance valves, studor vents, vacuum breaker valves, in-line vents, or the V-200: these products are used in both new construction (where permitted by the local plumbing inspector) and as a retrofit where a building plumbing fixture is having drain problems such as trap siphonage because the fixture is not vented or not adequately vented.
Standard plumbing prevents sewer gas from exiting by use of plumbing traps:
Sewer gases that enter the waste piping system are blocked from passing out through a sink, shower or tub drain by water in the 'U' portion of the drain trap, typically a 'P-trap'. Sewer gases are blocked from passing out through the toilet base by water in the toilet.
Plumbing guidelines and rules define the allowable distance between any plumbing fixture and the plumbing vent stack; if a fixture is located too far from the vent, its drainage may be poor and there is risk of plumbing trap siphonage and dangerous sewer gas release in the building.

Air Admittance Valves vs 'Cheater Vents'

Where a conventional plumbing vent system is not available or not feasible the local plumbing inspector may permit an air admittance valve to be installed.

An air admittance valve is designed to allow air in to the drain piping system to which it is connected whenever pressure in the drain system is below atmospheric pressure outside the valve.

Photo: an older style 'cheater vent' that is spring-operated

Watch out: the 'Cheater Vent' shown above uses an internal spring that opens and closes the DWV seal. Studor, in their TECHNICAL MANUAL (cited and linked below) point out that this type of air admittence valve, or 'old style' valve is not legal and does not meet any of the plumbing codes.

It may also be unsafe as a weakened or jammed or broken spring in the valve can lead to a failure that admits dangerous sewer gases into the building.

[Click to enlarge any image] Shown above: an older (now obsolete but still sold) V-200 air admittance valve

Air admittance valve (AAV) lets air in at the valve opening: the vacuum created by water passing down the drain system opens a valve in the AAV to permit air to enter the drain system, thus satisfying or relieving the vacuum, both to improve drainage and avoid drain noises.
The AAV closes when there is no vacuum in the drain system - that is when wastewater is not passing down the drain, preventing sewer gases from passing back up the drain system and out through the AAV.
Air admittance valves are located close to the fixture they serve, and are placed above the drain line as well as 6' above the P-trap weir as shown in the V-200 AAV installation instructions illustrated below.

Air admittance valves (AAVs) also have to withstand the positive pressure that can occur in some public sewer systems, in forced-main public or private sewer or septic systems, in plumbing drain systems using a sewage ejector pump, or in a blocked private septic system or in systems located in hilly terrain.

Where high sewer gas pressures are anticipated, the sewer piping system should include a vent to the building exterior. (Studor 2016)

Some plumbing literature describes AAVs as P.A.P.A. devices. However they are different.

An AAV admits air into the system when under negative pressure. A P.A.P.A. or Positive Air Pressure Attenuator (described in more detail below) handles temporary back-pressures or positive air pressures in the drain/waste/vent piping system.

And some suppliers (National Builders Supply) recommend locating AAVs or PAPA devices throughout the plumbing system to improve drain performance by handling variations in air pressure in the drain-waste-vent system (DWV system), and to avoid trap siphonage.

Watch out: If you smell sewer gases in your building conditions could be dangerous (risking a methane gas explosion) or unsanitary.

See REMEDIES for SEWER ODORS, PLUMBING and

also see ODORS GASES SMELLS, DIAGNOSIS & CURE.

Air Admittance Valves retail for prices between about $6.00 and $32.00 U.S.D.

Shown just above is a black plastic mechanical air admittance vent from Keeney and retailing about $6. You'll note that it looks a bit like the V-200 shown above.

Watch out: mechanical or spring-operated AAVs are not IPC code compliant and are not recommended.

Below: a Studor® Mini-Vent Air Admittance Valve (Code-Compliant).

However this Studor vent may not have been installed sufficiently high above the horizontal drain line. Details are given in the Studor Technical Manual and vent installation instrucitons provided here.

According to Studor, the company's Air Admittance Valves (available in several models and capacities) open when the drain system senses negative pressure as low as 0.1 psi, but will remain closed at 0 psi or above.

This vent is designed to open when the plumbing fixture(s) it serves are draining, thus allowing air to enter the drain waste vent system.

The Studor vent AAV closes (by gravity alone, no springs), when there is no wastewater flowing through tye system, thus preventing sewer gas from passing up the drain or vent into the building.

According to Studor 'This style air admittance valve is not recognized as a mechanical vent in the International Plumbing Coder (IPC).' - op. cit.

Exerpting from the Studor manual:

Because AAVs are either at or very near the Point Of Need (PON) for air, and thanks to their reaction times, asystem utilizing STUDOR AAVs is capable of balancing its internal pressure much more efficiently, without trapmovement or depletion than open pipe vent systems.

This is particularly true in large commercial applications where the air needed to balance the system after each occurrence is drawn from far away points and thus require substantial time to reach the Point Of Need (PON). - op. cit.

Air Admittance Valve / Studor® Vent Sizing

Air admittance valves (AAVs) or if you're using the 'Kleenex' form of the term, Studor Vents are sold in various sizes or venting capacities. Air admittance valve capacity is the measure of the volume of wastewater and its flow rate that the valve can handle while preventing trap siphonage and methane gas hazards.

If building wastewater flows exceed the rating of the AAV then it is inadequate and the building may be unsafe as water may siphon from traps and explosive methane gas could enter the building. AAV manufacturers such as Studor® typically describe air admittance valve sizing or AAVs used in a combination of installation points to match building size: a rough estimate of the actual drain flow.

Oatey rates their AAVs in DFUs and provide four AAVS at sizes of 5, 20, 160 and 500 DFUs while some other manufacturers such as Studor describe products in flow rates of wastewater in liters per second.

See PLUMBING DRAIN FIXTURE UNITS DFUs for an explanation of plumbing vent Drain Fixture Units or DFUs, and for an explanation of how DFUs are calculated and used in sizing drain waste vent piping including the selection of a proper air admittance valve or AAV sizing.

Example AAV Size Ratings in DFUs or in Liters/Second

Oatey's Sure-Vent intended for 1 1/2 to 2' drain piping is described (at Home Depot) as in compliance with ASSE Stdandards 1050 and 1051, for use as a secondary vent, rated to handle up to a 3' drain pipe.
Oatey
Studor's Mini-Vent™ - 7.5 liters/second at 250 pa (10 pa = 1 mm water gauge). This vent can handle up to 160 DFUs on a single plumbing vent branch or up to 24 DFUs on a plumbing vent stack.
Studor's Mini-Vent™ is used for fenting a single plumbing fixture or a small group of plumbing fixtures such as in a residential kitchen or bath. A residential kitchen sink drain also serving a dishwasher should be fine with the smallest AAV size.
Studor®'s Maxi-Vent™ - 32 liters/second at 250 pa (10 pa = 1 mm water gauge)
Studor®'s Maxi-Vent™ is a high capacity air admittance valve that protects trap seals throughout the drainage system of larger buildings. Used alone and installed as the manufacturer directs, the Maxi-Vent™ can handle plumbing drain venting requirements for a typical low rise residential building of three or four floors in height.
In high rise buildings up to 10 floors Studor®'s Maxi-Vent™ is combined with the company's Mini-Vent™ installed at individual fixtures
In high rise buildings taller than 10 floors, Studor provides a Studor System venting design of highest capacity.

Illustration above: Studor's Mini-Vent® DFU (Drain Fixture Unit) sizing chart from the STUDOR PRODUCTS MANUAL cited and linked-to in this article. Studor's Tec-Vent® has the same DFU capacity.

Other Studor brand AAVs vary in DFU capacity - more charts are given below.

The Studor REDI-VENT® (in the same manual as cited above ) is installed on a 1 1/2' or 2' drain pipe; on a 4-inch horizontal branch the maximum number of DFUs it can support up to 20 DFUs.

The Studor MAXI-VENT® is installed on 3' or 4' pipes, can be used outdoors, and can vent fixtures according to the table below:

Air Admittance Valve Codes & Standards

ANSI/ASSE 1050 Performance Requirements for stack type air admittance valves for sanitary drainage systems
ANSI/ASSE 1051 Performance Requirements for individual and branch type air admittance valves for sanitary drainage systems
International Plumbing Code, IPC Section 917
International Residential Code, IRC Section P3114
International Code Council, 500 New Jersey Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, DC 20001 Tel: 1-888-ICC-SAFE (422-7233); Fax: (202) 783-2348 International: (202) 370-1800, Email: webmaster@iccsafe.org, Website: http://www.iccsafe.org
International Residential Code (IRC), for One and Two Family Dwellings, 2012 (First Printing)
Home Page: http://publicecodes.citation.com/icod/irc/index.htm
Citation Page:
http://publicecodes.citation.com/icod/irc/2012/icod_irc_2012_31_sec003.htm
International Mechanical Code (IMC), International Code Council [888] 422-7233, Op. Cit.
International Plumbing Code (IPC) (see NPC below), Op. Cit.
National Standard Plumbing Code, (NPC), 2009
obtained From: National Assoc. of Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors in New Jersey at [800] 652-7422 or NAPHCC [800] 533-7694, [Cited by New Jersey State Department of Community Affairs]
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/codreg/pdf_misc_codes/2006_nspc.pdf
New Jersey State Department of Community Affairs, Website: http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/codes/codreg/
NSF 14 for plastic piping system components & related materials
Oatey Corporation, 'Oatey Sure-Vent® Air Admittance Valves Technical Specifications', Oatey® Corporation, - retrieved 2016/05/08, original source: http://www.oatey.com/doc/aavtrifoldlcs420c101812lr.pdf
Excerpt:
The purpose of an air admittance valve is to provide a method of allowing air to enter the plumbing system without the use of a vent extended to open air and to prevent sewer gases from escaping inside a building.
Studor Inc., 'Design Criteria and Installation Instructions for Studor Air Admittance Valves (AAVs)', [PDF], Studor, Inc., - retrieved 2016/05/02, original source: https://assets.nationalbuildersupply.com/ul_pdfs/studor-aav-design-and-installation.pdf This document describes the Studor Mini-Vent, Redi-Vent, Tec-Vent and Ultra-Vent (pipe sizes 1 1/2' to 2') and the Studor Maxi-Vent (pipe sizes 3' to 4')
Uniform Plumbing Code, UPC Section 909.0 - plumbing code discussion of the use of air admittance valves in residential buildings; UPC Section 301.2 (Alternate Materials and Methods)

Excerpts from IPC Chapter 9, Vents, on Air Admittance Valve Codes

The photo of an inline plumbing vent or air admittance valve shown here, contributed by reader Megan, was posted originally at PLUMBING VENT CODES & DEFINITIONS.

This vent, installed in a basement or crawl space, was not properly-located according to Megan's plumbing inspector.

Section 917 Air Admittance Valves

917.1 General. Vent systems utilizing air admittance valves shall comply with this section.

Stack-type air admittance valves shall conform to ASSE 1050. Individual and branch-type air admittance valves shall conform to ASSE 1051.

917.2 Installation. The valves shall be installed in accordance with the requirements of this section and the manufacturer’s installation instructions. Air admittance valves shall be installed after the DWV testing required by Section 312.2 or 312.3 has been performed.

917.3 Where permitted. Individual, branch and circuit vents shall be permitted to terminate with a connection to an individual or branch-type air admittance valve.

Stack vents and vent stacks shall be permitted to terminate to stack-type air admittance valves.

Individual and branch-type air admittance valves shall vent only fixtures that are on the same floor level and connect to a horizontal branch drain.

The horizontal branch drain having individual and branch-type air admittance valves shall conform to Section 917.3.1 or 917.3.2. Stack-type air admittance valves shall conform to Section 917.3.3.

917.3.1 Location of branch. The horizontal branch drain shall connect to the drainage stack or building drain a maximum of four branch intervals from the top of the stack.

917.3.2 Relief vent. Where the horizontal branch is located more than four branch intervals from the top of the stack, the horizontal branch shall be provided with a relief vent that shall connect to a vent stack or stack vent, or extend outdoors to the open air.

The relief vent shall connect to the horizontal branch drain between the stack and the most downstream fixture drain connected to the horizontal branch drain.

The relief vent shall be sized in accordance with Section 916.2 and installed in accordance with Section 905. The relief vent shall be permitted to serve as the vent for other fixtures.

917.3.3 Stack. Stack-type air admittance valves shall not serve as the vent terminal for vent stacks or stack vents

917.4 Location. Individual and branch-type air admittancevalves shall be located a minimum of 4 inches (102 mm) abovethe horizontal branch drain or fixture drain being vented.

Stack-type air admittance valves shall be located not less than 6 inches (152 mm) above the flood level rim of the highest fixture being vented. The air admittance valve shall be located within the maximum developed length permitted for the vent.

The air admittance valve shall be installed a minimum of 6 inches (152 mm) above insulation materials.

917.5 Access and ventilation. Access shall be provided to all air admittance valves. The valve shall be located within a ventilated space that allows air to enter the valve.

917.6 Size. The air admittance valve shall be rated in accordance with the standard for the size of the vent to which the valve is connected.

917.7 Vent required. Within each plumbing system, a minimumof one stack vent or vent stack shall extend outdoors to the open air. 917.8 Prohibited installations.

Air admittance valves shall not be installed in nonneutralized special waste systems as described in Chapter 8.

Valves shall not be located in spaces utilized as supply or return air plenums.

AAVs Studor Vents Installation Guides & Sources

AB DURGO AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES CERTIFICATION [PDF] (2011) British Board of Agrement, Bucknails Lane, Garston, Watford Herts WD25 98A UKe-mail: mail@bba.star.co.uk website: www.bbacerts.co.uk retrieved 2019/08/14 original source: https://www.hunterplastics.co.uk/media/1791/bba-durgo-certificate-06-4325.pdf
British Plastics Corp., AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES for DOMESTIC PROPERTIES [PDF] (2018) retrieved 2019/08/14 original source: https://www.bpfpipesgroup.com/media/29598/Air-admittance-valves-for-domestic-properties.pdf
Excerpt: Across the UK, Building Regulations and statutory guidance allow for ventilation by either open soil pipes orair admittance valves. The preferred solution, being the simplest and most familiar to install, is the open soilpipe. It requires minimal maintenance and the visible termination point above the roof means it is less likelyto be blocked off during future building work by householders.
Open soil pipes within 3 m of any opening to the building need to terminate at least 900 mm above theopening, for example a window or balcony. Additionally, they require capping with a balloon grating or wirecage to prevent any wildlife from seeking a warm refuge whilst not restricting the flow of air.
Air admittance valves (AAVs) are installed directly on to the soil stack without the need for a hole to be madein the property roof, reducing the amount of pipework required and the costs of making good the roof, andminimising future risk of weather damage and water ingress.
AAVs are normally located in the roof spaceand can provide the same ventilation capacity as an open system. They are particularly suitable for installationon stub stacks – a short stack from ground floor appliances which avoids the need for a full house height pipe.
Whilst not permitted by statutory guidance, except in Scotland under controlled conditions, the use of airadmittance valves on the outside of the property is commonly used to overcome space restrictions betweenthe stack and a window opening or to ventilate appliances without access to the main soil stack, for examplein a property extension. .
DURGO AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES for Drainage Systems [PDF] DURGO ABBOX 3021, SE-169 03 SOLNA, SWEDENRÅSUNDAVÄGEN 25, SE-169 67 SOLNA, SWEDENPHONE +46 8 730 5280, FAX +46 8 735 6955SALES@DURGO.SEWWW.DURGO.SE retrieved 2019/08/14 original source: http://www.durgo.dk/pdf/afloeb.pdf
FloPlast AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES [PDF] (2007) FloPlast Limited Castle Road Eurolink Business Park Sittingbourne Kent ME10 3FP UK Tel: +44 (0)1795 431731 Fax: +44 (0)1795 431188 Sales Office Direct Line: +44 (0)1795 421422 Email: sales@floplast.co.uk Website: www.floplast.co.uk
Oatey SURE-VENT® AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES [PDF] Oatey SCS Supply Chain Services, 4700 W. 160th St. Cleveland, OH 44135 USA Tel: 800.321.9532 Fax: 800.321.9535 Website: www.oatey.com retrieved 2019/08/14 original source: https://www.oatey.com/ASSETS/DOCUMENTS/ITEMS/EN/aavtrifoldlcs420c101812lr.pdf
Excerpts from features of the Oatey AAV: (w/ minor edits for clarity)
Oatey provides four vent models rated at 6, 20, 160 and 500 DFUs for optimized installations
Sweet Spot™ technology opens at - 0.01 psi (-0.25” H₂O) and seals at 0 psi and above
Screening on air inlets to guard the seal
INSTALLATION: Individual, branch and circuitvents are permitted to terminate with a connection to a Sure-Vent® AAV.
TheSure-Vent® AAV will only vent fixtures that are on the same floor level andconnect to a horizontal branch drain.
The horizontal branch drain shallconnect to the drainage stack a maximum of four branch intervals from thetop of the stack.
The Sure-Vent® AAV should be located within the maximumdeveloped length permitted for the vent.
The Sure-Vent® AAV must belocated a minimum of 4 inches above the horizontal branch drain and 6inches above any insulation material and within 15 degrees of vertical.
Everystructure in which plumbing is installed shall have at least one primary stackvent. The stack vent should run as directly as possible from the buildingdrain through to the open air.
STUDOR PRODUCTS MANUAL [PDF] (10th ed) (see p. 8) Studor IPS Corporation, retrieved 2019/08/14 original source: https://ipscorp.com/pdf/studor/Studor_Technical_Manual.pdf
Excerpt: The Studor AAV was initially developed by Sture Ericson who applied for the patenton his first designed valve, the Bjare Valve, in July 1973. The valve was named after aspecific region of Sweden where his factory was located.

Reader Comments / Questions about Air Admittance Valves

On 2019-08-14 by (mod) - diagnose slow drainage with an AAV installed

I don 't think shortening the sink drops (what I call tailpieces) will help this problem - though an experiment would be interesting.

Illustration: Studor's Mini-Vent® DFU (Drain Fixture Unit) sizing chart from the STUDOR PRODUCTS MANUAL cited and linked-to above. Studor's Tec-Vent® has the same DFU capacity. Other Studor brand AAVs vary in DFU capacity - more charts are given below.

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Your theory about the AAV being too big is interesting too, but I'd be surprised if that's the trouble since the designer of the larger-capacity AAV has to consider that the AAV has to open at lower drainage rates than the maximum that the vent can handle. Your AAV could be too-small, however as we'll discuss here.

Typically an AAV opens at - 0.1 psi and closes at 0 psi or above.

According to the Studor AAV Sizing chart on the label you attached, assuming your kitchen sink drains are 2' diameter your AAV can handle 6 DFUs - more than enough for just two kitchen sinks.

Curiously your Studor Vent label shows a 'blank' for the maximum number of DFUs ifyour drain horizontal branch is just 1 1/2' - so your AAV could be too small, but not too big.
Let's both look over the specs some more and let's review the reasons that a drain line may be slow when an AAV has been installed.

Causes of Slow Drains where an Air Admittance Valve AAV is Installed

Downstream trap: The most common cause of poor or slow drainage where an Air Admittance Valve has been installed is back pressure in the drain piping system. That can be caused if the AAV has been installed upstream from a drain that is trapped.
The trap downstream from the AAV combined with wastewater flowing down the drain when the AAV-supported fixture is being drained (such as a toilet or large sink) can cause back-pressure that prevents the AAV from opening enough for the drain to flow freely.
Downstream drain blockage: A second problem that will cause poor drainage when the AAV is installed is a partial drain blockage downstream, usually pretty far downstream, from the fixture being served by the air admittance valve.
An improperly-sloped drain line can also cause the same slow-draining AAV problem as a remote drain blockage. Positive pressure in the drain line.
Missing or blocked conventional roof vent on the main drain line into which the AAV-served drain ultimately empties. A roof vent may be blocked by debris, frost (in freezing weather), and even a frog (at least I found one there once).
Oatey and Studor make clear that while it is helpful (and sometimes permitted) to install an AAV at a fixture that's otherwise too distant from the building vent system (example would be a kitchen island sink drain or garbage disposer drain in an island sink), the building drain system into which the fixture ultimately empties must be served by a conventional roof vent.
Subtle partial drain blockage (uncommon) such as a horizontal plastic trap arm that is pushed so far into a drain tee or sink tailpiece tee that it is partly blocking drain flow - similar to #2 above but usually closer to the fixture.
AAV too small for the total wastewater volume: compare the DFUs (drain fixture units) number with the number of fixtures actually being served by the AAV.
Watch out: In Ryan's sink photo below we see two kitchen sinks draining into a common trap line with a Studor Mini-Vent® AAV installed.
While Ryan's photo of the Studor Mini-Vent label shows a blank at the 'Maximum DFUS' column for the 1 1/2' diameter drain line, the company's technical product manual (PDF given above in this article) shows that on a 1 1/2' diameter horizontal drain, the Mini-Vent can handle a MAXIMUM of 3 DFUs.
If Ryan's AAV is installed on a 1 1/2' diameter drain, that AAV may be too small when both sinks are draining at once, as we count 2 DFUs per kitchen sink. If it's installed on a 2-inch diameter drain, it should be OK and the slow drain problem is elsewhere.
See details at PLUMBING DRAIN FIXTURE UNITS DFUs
AAV not installed according to the manufacturer's specifications. See examples of those details, such as installed with insufficient height above the horizontal drain, installed too far from the vent stack, not installed vertical, etc. in the article above.

Positive Air Pressure Attenuators

If you cannot solve your positive drain pressure problem and are confident that there are no drain bellies, improper slopes, improper sizings, blockages, vent defects, then you might try installing a positive air pressure attenuator such as Studor's P.A.P.A.™ intended for commercial use. Here is an excerpt from the Studor technical manual cited above:

The P.A.P.A. device is the perfect complement to STUDOR Air Admittance Valves. Togetherthey form an Engineered System known as “Studor Single Pipe System (SSPS)”, a totalsolution to building venting requirements.

The Studor AAVs deal with negative pressure in the system while the P.A.P.A. effectively deals with the positive pressure transients. The combination of the two maintains the perfect system balance quickly and efficiently throughout the system preventing siphonage and blowing of traps.

Be sure to review the technical specifications, limitations, and instructions in Studor's technical manual.

I'm going to copy this conversation over to the home article where it may invite helpful comments from others
AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES AAVs inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Air_Admittance_Studor_Vents.php

Well anyhow that's a better trap installation that's less clog likely.
When no air is being drawn IN through the AAV that suggests that the drain is functioning even without air admittance (that can happen though it's not long term reliable) - but you say that with the AAV removed the drain works better. That suggests that the AAV isn't admitting enough air fast enough. (Or less likely there's a downstream blockage).
Often on a two-sink setup I notice that when the big sink is draining air is drawn into the drain through the smaller one - that tells me that there isn't a good air flow into the drain system through the building plumbing vent piping - which is why you added the AAV in the first place.
I'm adding a stack of PDFs on AAVs and their specifications and air admittance valve installation instructions from various manufacturers so that we can review their specifications;

On 2019-08-14 by Russ

For what it is worth, here is a pic of the container the AAV valve came with. It's hard to see the 1 1/2' but it is 3 DFU's max.

I have wondered if the AAV I have is too large for this application but wanted to reach out for advice before buying another brand to see the results. Going back to your original reply, I can shorten the sink drops to raise the assembly too.

On 2019-08-14 by (mod) - Troubleshooting a Studor AAV that causes too-slow drainage

That suggests that the AAV isn't admitting enough air fast enough. (Or less likely there's a downstream blockage).
Often on a two-sink setup I notice that when the big sink is draining air is drawn into the drain through the smaller one - that tells me that there isn't a good air flow into the drain system through the building plumbing vent piping - which is why you added the AAV in the first place.
I'm adding a stack of PDFs on AAVs from various manufacturers so that we can review their specifications;
See AIR ADMITTANCE VALVES AAVs https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Air_Admittance_Studor_Vents.php

On 2019-08-14 by Russ

Thank you for your promt reply! I did as you suggested below.

First filling both sinks, removed the upper sink drain and using talc to see how the AAV was drawing in air

. I could not see the air being drawn into the AAV, nor could I hear it open. I closed the upper sink drain while still having water in it and removed the lower, repeating the process with the talc on the AAV. Same results with no air being drawn into it.

Then I removed all water from the upper sink and leaving drain open, pulled lower sink drain. The same results with the AAV and the talc. I removed the AAV and held it in the vertical position, gently drawing air by mouth, it does open and gentle blowing, it does close. I went ahead and removed the extra 90 in the trap, I had that in to create space between the trap and the drain.

On 2019-08-14 by (mod) - How to test the Air Admittance Valve AAV - The Bag Test & the Talcum Powder Test

That extra loop trap seems unnecessary; if you shorten the sink tailpieces and raise up the Tee you can go to a single U trap that will improve drainage - but I note that's an independent issue from the slow venting with the Studor in place.
Some plumbers refer to this as a 'positive pressure' problem; when water tries to run down the drain it's creating positive pressure in the drain system - that'll close or tend to close the air inlet at the AAV.
Sometimes the problem is that the water running down one side of the sink needs to push air up and out - the Studor or Air Admittance Valve (AAV) only lets air IN - it won't let air OUT.
So let's start by checking what's happening.

Close both sink drains, then fill both sinks, then with an accomplice listening or feeling or blowing talc at the Studor AAV, open one sink drain.

An alternative to blowing talc at the AAV while the fixture is draining, try simply securing a lightweight plastic bag over the AAV, holding it in place with a rubber band.

When you empty the fixture if the bag inflates we know there is a positive pressure problem at the drain - for which solutions will be given above.

If the bag over the AAV compresses or deflates then the AAV is drawing in air.
Try the same experiment with

- one sink drain (the smaller higher one) empty and its strainer removed.
Let me know what happens.

On 2019-08-14 by Russ - slow drainage problem after adding an AAV

I added a Studor Mini AAV to a double kitchen sink that has no other means of venting in hopes of improving the drain speed. After filling the sink and then releasing the water it still drains rather slow but does drain. If I remove the AAV it drains very fast.

There is a main vent line on the house for the toilets and shower but is 25' from the kitchen. If I pour dish soap in the drain with the AAV in place it does drain quickly. Any ideas on things to look at to improve the draining time on the sink would be appreciated.

This Q&A were posted originally at PLUMBING VENT FAQs-3

On 2019-08-14 by (mod) - plumbing drains should never be vented into a heating appliance vent system.

No John, plumbing drains should never be vented into a heating appliance vent system.
Doing so is unsafe.

On 2019-08-14 by TN John

Hello;
In your opinion can a 2 inch grinder pump that is in the slab be vented up and across the mechanical room ceiling and Tee into the 2 inch vent pipe for the gas furnace?

On 2019-07-19 by (mod) -

No, Joe, the air admittance vents described here are for drain pipes. THey have nothing to do with water heating equipment.

On 2019-07-19 by Joe

With the Studor vent 200 auto vent work with a hot water heater?

On 2019-06-15 by (mod) -

Yes

How To Install Air Admittance Valve For Toilet Valve

On 2019-06-15 by Ron

Can you have a garbage disposal with this system

On 2019-04-26 by Nick Loche - dripping noise Dx

@Douglas Rome,

Does the drip noise you describe only occur when you are running water? If this is the case it could possibly be that water pipes are expanding against the holes that the pipes run through and you could wind up chasing a phantom sound forever. If the holes that the water pipes run through are too small or the strapping used is too tight around the pipe this could possibly produce that same sound similar to a drip.

I also agree with [the moderator] in that the AAV must always be accessible.

If it is the AAV one possibility is that the tapping is the valve opening and closing making a noise and in this case run hot water at a very slow but steady stream for 5 minutes and if there is no tapping at all then run the water fully open and if the tapping begins then it is more possibly the AAV Oatey valve making the tapping noise.

On 2019-04-26 by Nick Loche - snaking a grease-blocked drain may fail to open it fully

@Josh,

Is your home on a slab or do you have a basement? Can you see the pipes that run from your sink underneath? Are the pipes galvanized or plastic? Sometimes snaking the line (even 25 feet) only makes a dime size hole in the grease. Also, if it is an older home it could be a gray water line. When you pulled the snake back was there a thick coating of sludge or grease?

On 2019-04-26 by Nick Loche

(mod) ,

Agreed. Air Admittance Valves rarely solve this problem of blocked drain lines notwithstanding the cause of it. Air Admittance Valves can be added to it's own

Watch out section for risk of dangerous sewer gases re-entering the building respectfully.

Oatey's Sure-Vent, Oatey, Studor's Mini-Vent, Studor's Maxi-Vent can all be a risk of possible dangerous sewer gases re-entering the building.

I had a studor and an oatey air admittance valve leak sewer gas odor from time to time so I threaded a cap to the drain connection, since there was a vent to roof within 5 feet of the trap, and the unpleasant sewer gas odor was gone. I since installed a dual seal air admittance valve and no problems since.

I am still not satisfied with air admittance valves in general and it is important that those who read this information are provided with fact based experiences instead of speculation that if you have a slow drain an air admittance valve will solve all your problems.

On 2019-04-13 by (mod) - signs of blocked drain vs. poor venting

When sewage actually backs up into a toilet during use of other plumbing fixtures nearby that's a pretty strong suggestion that the drain system is blocked; it's odd that inadequate venting would go so far as to actually cause drainage backup nearby but I suppose that's also possible.
The latter part of your comment about water being sucked out of other toilets does indeed suggest a combination of a tremendous suction on the drain line combined with no venting working at all.
I speculate that the volume and thus weight of water draining from upstairs combined with no venting is explaining the loss of water downstairs.
Watch out: loss of water from traps at toilets and sinks, showers, etc. risks dangerous sewer gas re-entering the building- risking a methane explosion.
Instead of having more work done by 'the builder' who may not be a plumber, you probably need an experienced plumber on site to review the vent system.
Read-up about plumbing vents by noting those articles in the ARTICLE INDEX found above.

On 2019-04-10 by Yuri Hanja

@Josh,
Have a 2 story house. Have 2 upstairs full bathrooms. One bath has problems. 1)when showering the toilet would fill to brim. 2) when toilet is used the flush would
not empty.

July 2017 after proving water was not draining properly, the builder tore first floor ceiling down and realigned the drain pipes. But now problems
are returning, including all toilet water( both up and downstairs toilets) being sucked out. We are connected to town sewer system.

On 2018-08-06 by (mod) - signs of drain blockage when the AAV is working

Josh
If the sink drain is backing up and the air admittance valve is working I suspect there is a drain blockage not yet found and cleared. You could confirm that it's not the vent by removing it entirely - an open standpipe under the sink acts as an unobstructed air entry point. If the drain still backs up then we figure it's not an air admittance problem.

On 2018-08-06 by Josh

I have a studor minivent on my double sinks with a dishwasher connected. I have snaked the pipes 25 feet but my sink backs up really quick. Ive replaced the studor vent with the same problem. The valve is rated to 160 dfu I dont know what else to do.

On 2017-04-23 by (mod) - never bury an AAV

I'm not sure it's good practice to bury an AAV in part because it can't be inspected nor replaced if it fails.

The hazards include more than just poor venting or poor drains: an AAV that jams may also vent dangerous sewer gases into the building. The valve must remain accessible.
I like the stethoscope approach; also look for stains below the area where you hear dripping.

On 2017-04-23 by Douglas Rome

we did a 1st floor kitchen remodel and had to use an AAV to accommodate a second floor lav. the walls and ceiling were open for a few weeks after the AAV install. in that time we did not notice a leak in the exposed lav piping.

The tapping sound we hear is like you would hear if there was a slow leak and water dripping on drywall ceiling drip drip drip. the AAV is buried behind drywall and it is a Oatey brand I don't recall the model number it was purchased at one of the big boxes. I will try a stethoscope to see if I can pinpoint. thanks, douglas

On 2017-04-17 by (mod) - AAVs do not normally make noise

Douglas
The AAVs I've installed, seen, inspected were rather silent. If you hear a tapping sound and it's for sure coming from the AAV (try a mechanic's stethoscope) then perhaps the valve is indeed sticking or defective.

On 2017-04-17 by Douglas Rome - tapping (dripping) sounds at AAV?

does a AAV make noise? Like a tapping sound while water
is flowing in the drain? Thanks, Douglas

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Air admittance valves are used to provided venting for soil and ventilating stacks - most types are for installation within a building, others are specifically designed for outside use.

Those installed internally are generally fitted within rooms or the roof space. One great advantage of using air admittance valves internally is that they remove the need for holes through the roof or external walls. Their use also reduce the amount of pipework needed to fit an external, open soil or ventilating stack.

Air admittance valves used externally are specifically designed to operate within specified environmental conditions which must be checked against the intended installation location. The main advantage in using air admittance valves externally is that they reduce the amount of pipework which would otherwise be necessary to take the stack opening sufficient far from any window or other opening in the building.

Unless an air admittance valves is specifically described as being for external use, it should only be installed internally.

The air admittance valve incorporates a sealing diaphragm which under its own weight or slight spring pressure is normally held closed, thus sealing the foul air within the pipework - see diagram right.

When an appliance discharges into the drain, a slight negative air pressure is produced in the drain pipework which lifts the sealing diaphragm and allows air to be drawn in - see right lower. This intake of air equalises the air pressure and the sealing diaphragm falls back sealing the valve. The inrush of air through the open valve prevents the foul air in the pipe from escaping into the room/roof space and prevents the water seals in traps along the pipework from being broken.

An air admittance valve must be installed so that it is positioned above the highest flood level of the appliances fitted to the pipe - that is to say, where a washbasin is connected to the pipework, the air admittance valve must be higher than the overflow of that basin. This is to ensure the correct operation of the air admittance valve, otherwise there is a risk that the water seal in the basin's trap may be broken.

The use of air admittance valves are governed by building regulations (Part H) and they cannot be used in all situation, these regulations should be checked before specifying the use of an air admittance valve - generally speaking, within a normal, two storey house with an existing vent pipe, there will be no problem; fitting within a taller building or a block of flats may be problematic.

Air admittance valves are easy to fit, some incorporate seal rings which seal against the inside of the pipework, other valves just slip onto the top of the vertical pipe.

The two main constraints when fitting Air Admittance Valves are:

They can only be fitted to vertical pipework - turning the valve on its side will mean that the seal won't work.
They should only be fitted within a building to avoid the risk of them freezing during winter frosts. Most air admittance vales are supplied with a formed polystyrene moulding, which should be fitted to the valve top after installation in an unheated roof space to provide added protection from frost.

Problems can arise where air admittance valves are fitted to vent pipes which are not separately vented and which include water traps - this can lead to back pressure in the pipework when an appliance is discharged which will effect the appliance discharge - this will be especially noticeable when a toilet is flushed.

Air Admittance Valve For Toilet

Air admittance valves do not need any maintenance but can cause problems if they become faulty as they may allow sewer gas into the building.